Sa fortune s lve 10 000,00 euros mensuels It is very difficult, almost impossible right now (and in my opinion not worth it) trying to become a member of the Eastern Cherokees because of the money involved with the Casinos. I am looking for written paper on Robin Moytoy, daugther of Chief Ostenaco. It sounds as if intermarriage began so early, it would be difficult to ever establish a true degree of Indian blood. My 10g grandmother is Nancy Ward. The son of Elizabeth Emory was an entry to denote Ta-lo-nv-ti-s-gi as the older [half-]brother of John Jolly as per Starr, A32, pg 472. . I am still a little confused on the wives an children. Elizabeth 'Lizzie' Miller was born on December 24, 1856. What a tragidy it would be if all those people believing to have these descendents were all mislead. For some, their families were ashamed of their indian heritage and made a point to hide it. Yes, some of Rich Joe Vann's slaves participated in the Slave Revolt. I have been told "Cherokee Woman" Agatagwi Kimmerling wa the daughter of Chief Amadajiyi Pidgeon of Tellico, Moytoy and she was married to Jacob Friedrich Kimmerling. The average lot size on Woods Rd is 15,499 ft2 and the average property tax is $868.7/yr. Please just so I can show people I know working on information of the Moytoy and between Moytoy having children. After my father and aunt (his only sister) deaths in 1994 - my cousin had found documents that revealed information of 4 generations of my lineage. And we all share Central American markers from the Mayans. Bob Benge and his brother The Tail are described as the nephews of John Watts and great-nephews of Old Tassel, leading to the conclusion that their mother was the sister of John Watts. Under that treaty, the Spanish would provide arms and supplies to the Native Americans to carry on their war against the US. According to my family tree results Amatoya Moytoy is my 8th great grandfather, so it seems we may actually be distantly related. Rich Joe, my g-uncle, was killed in 1844 when his steamboat exploded near Louusville. To be recognized by The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, The Eastern Band of Cherokees in North Carolina and the United Keetowah Band in Oklahoma, you must show a relationship with a member who is on the Dawes Rolls. William Dorton, Jr., s/o William & Elizabeth Dorton) born in the year 1750 died December 10, 1826. Benge Fielder. All DOCUMENTED Cherokee. The one is Oklahoma is closed to new members (How can a nation be closed to legitimate members of the nation? There is a widespread belief that he was the son of the John Benge who lived with the Cherokee and his white wife. About Elizabeth "Wurte" Watts . His user name on Ancestry.com was Tahlequah. Watts was seriously wounded, and Siksika (known as "The Shawnee Warrior," and an older brother of Tecumseh)); Tahlonteeskee (also called Talotiskee of the Broken Arrow, a Muscogee warrior); Little Owl (a brother of Dragging Canoe); and Pumpkin Boy (a brother of Doublehead), all died in the encounter.[4]. Also related to Pocahontas. Was Tomas erssay called another invlish name. It shows him as 26 years old and his family card shows what I would guess is his wife and 3 children (a set of twins and another child). You need to sort out The Boot from Shoeboots. These ships were small and fast, often able to make the crossing from Scotland and Ireland in less than thirty days. Regardez le Salaire Mensuel de Jeep Grand Cherokee Occasion Maroc en temps rel. Robert Due [ [Due-74]]: No . The council signed the Treaty of Tellico Blockhouse in November, officially ending hostilities with the US. Evans, E. Raymond. I had assumed that meant John Forked Tail WATTS. I can't speak for others but I don't recognize federal recognition. Follow. Discover your family history in millions of family trees and more than a billion birth, marriage, death, census, and military records. White men and women who married Cherokees are then considered to be a member of the tribe. I don't know anything about the other tribes, but if you have a relative on the Dawes Roll you can be enrolled as a Western Cherokee. Someone actually said Moytoy didn't exist?. No sense arguing with someone trying to push a false agenda. John Jolly had a white father, possibly Robert Due, and a Cherokee mother but nothing else is known of his parents. Image at https://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/index.html/document/csr22-0706) John Watts father was a white trader and interpreter (also named John Watts) who came into the Cherokee Nation before 1752. She died in 1780, in Tennessee, United States, at the age of 25. clayjackie@bellsouth.net Jackie Owen Perry on face book, There is zero proof that "Moytoy" had any descendants. -KARYN BISHOFALSO DO ANY OF THESE NAMES LINE UP WITH YOURS?WHICH NAME DID YOU OBTAIN ENROLLMENT FROMchief murmuring ripplechief morning rippleshawandochief dancing streamchief running stream/ powhatan (the chief powhatan)scent flowermorning scent flower- paupauwiskenonomatatiske winuskewahunsonocockvirginia metis powhatanthomas munsawghewinanuske nonomaopechancanoughnamontackpride chalakahatha cornstalktaminad munsawghelocha quatsy nancy of tellicothomas pasmere corn planter carpenteramatoya moytoy (amadoya) (ama edohi) trader tom carpenterkana-gatoga moytoy- old hop/ stalking turkeysu-gi sookie moytoyanigatagewi moytoyamadoyamadoni moytoysu-gi sallie/sally grannie/granny grasshopperanuwagi peggy moytoycornelius doughertyjames doughertyelizabeth doughertynathan lawsonsampson david lawsongeorge w lawsonmary mahala j lawsoneverette s baldwin (my grandfather)beverly baldwin-bishof (my mom)karyn bishof (me), MARY MCDANIEL IS DAUGHTER OF WILLIAM MCDANIEL AND SU-GI. Obediah Martin Benge: He was a white man, a well-documented Revolutionary War soldier, the son of a white woman named Elizabeth Lewis(?) He was succeeded by Doublehead. The cherokee kings and chiefs and Headmen were generally related in some way in cherokee or other tribes kings and leaders. According to your site: "Later he was adopted by a man called Trader Tom Watts.,who was the friend and business partner of Thomas Pasmere Carpenter"How could Tom Watts have been a business partner of Thomas Carpenter? Robert Due [[Due-74]]: No source is listed for this claim. . Aug 8. According to my information. You should be trying to think of ways that your family can right the numerous wrongs they committed in the past. Thanks! Sally Watts Haithman Query: . Robert Bob The Bench Benge: see above. The emigrants who established our first colonies had a tough go. Could Prachy also have been Captain George Parris. He lived 1848 until 1917. His son James Vann became a very rich Cherokee by betraying the Cherokee. Taxpayer Name NAVEEVA INC owns the Cigarette / Tobacco Retailer license for WATTS GROCERY which is location number 1, with the taxpayer ID of 32079674340 in DENTON County. William is a well-documented Virginian, DAR patriot # A033306, who left his property to his wife Elizabeth and sons including Moses (will is transcribed on his Wikitree profile). He and Elizabeth had five children, William Jr., Moses, Sally, Edward, and a brother name unknown, who was killed by Indians in 1777 while scouting for the Militia in Powells Valley There is nothing in any records to suggest that William ever lived anywhere except Virginia or had any wives other than Elizabeth. I do however wish to validate the claim that someone in the same line, yet closer on my tree, (my 4x great grandparents) were of Cherokee origin. Due was a white trader who had a daughter named Jennie with a Cherokee woman named Elizabeth Emory. The application is pretty specific. She was born in 1859, in the Canadian District of the Cherokee Nation and is a full-blood Cherokee Indian. It may help some of us become federally recognized, and it may help new combers or our children and grandchildren prove their lines some day. Hey Mae West,Yes Amatoya Moytoy was his grandfather. She had at least 1 daughter with William R. Campbell. number. What to expect; First visit; FAQ; Download: small (250x250 max) medium (500x500 max) large ( > 500x500) Full Resolution . 2,000 acres, several trading posts, a few riverboat ferries, the Vann House in Spring Place (Georgia), and his father's accumulated gold which amounted to over $200,000 back then. Elizabeth Watts Schrack. Territory-era (1940s-1980s) This section lists notable professional wrestling promoters during the "Golden Age of Professional Wrestling" following the creation of the National Wrestling Alliance (NWA) in 1948.While most promoters operated specific wrestling "territories" as members of the NWA, a number of so-called "outlaw" promotions were also prominent during this period. Mary died either in England or Virginia. He is my 12th great grandfather and "Pocahontas" is my 11th great grandmother. What did Joseph Vann inherit? su-gi sookie moytoy is my 7th great grandmotherkana-gatoga moytoy- old hop/ stalking turkey, if I am remembering correctly was su-gi's Father. What a cowardly pathetic and ignorant joke you are, Anonymous. Who was responsible for that? He was Shawnee and he married his cousin Su-gi Rainmaker. Grasshoppers name was Susan. I admire the Cherokee for their courage, artistic talent and spiritual wisdom. Remember the Slave Revolt? Tail Sixkiller. She is named in no records and is known only by extrapolation from references to her father, her brother, and her son. I wonder, Cat, have you taken a DNA Test? John Riley. My family is also related to the Moytoy. Do you have a relative on the Dawes Roll, Shadow? It runs on my dads side running through the Morgans. The senior Watts, father of Young Tassell, served as the official British government Indian interpreter for the area until his death in 1779. I would be so delighted for help. Plus you can pull up the Vann Cherokee Indians and it tells you all about them. Cat Vann, I am related to amatoya moytoy chota, agustin chota is one of my great grandmothers through my great grandmother birdie hazel rogers if you have asny more info i would really car to know. My new email address is ol_man_emu@bigpond.com. I have 124 names on the rolls between guion miller and dawes (CN and EB). Actually The carpenter family can be traced back to people in English Parliment and with in some Bourbon's in French court. I'm a descendent of Gosaduisga and have seen some conflicting info, but your research has been insightful. Try Elizabeth "Quatsey" Betsy McDaniel whom was married to James Thomas Essary. with a Cigarette / Tobacco Retailer permit #21002394 which began on 08/15/2021. I am related to Amatoya through his son, Old Hop, Sookie Hopper, Catherine McDaniel, Mary Elvira Hensley, Mary Elvira Ward, to Lille Belle Holland, who is my 3rd great grandmother! I have done research on my family and have a lot of proof. Elizabeth Watts, also known as "Wurte" Watts, was the supposed mixed-blood daughter of John Watts, a British government interpreter [known as "Old Forked Tongue Watts"], who died in 1770. The Cherokee warriors proceeded against White's Fort (modern day Knoxville, Tennessee), where they were repulsed. It sad because all the info is there. White Wing married Elijah Adkins. . It is an honor to finally connect to a past that was just beyond reach. CVCC announces President's List for Fall 2022. 18 properties and 17 addresses found on Woods Road in Florence, SC. It has been speculated that Elizabeth Watts had children (but apparently not married) with both Trader John Benge and Nathaniel Gist, although some researchers have expressed doubt regarding this story. There is a whole lot of those kind of things that get picked up & repeated over & over again. I don't know how many times I heard her say she wished she'd never told me. Could we be related? I just started this ancestry.com. I am descended through Moytoy the Pigeon, Willenawah Great Eagle, Chief Doublehead, Gu-Lu-Sti-Yu, Nannie Riley. The family trees are just posted by folks like you & me. With all this he managed to double the number of slaves that he owned (over 200) and he relocated all of them west during the Trail of Tears via riverboats. SOOKIE SUSANNAH Su'Gi "GRASSHOPPER" Moytoy is my 5th great grandmother on the opposite side of my family. She was lasoknown as Raven. Hi Relatives!!! So, I have decided to write it just like I did to them, and include their emails in the book so at least the information is there! Just asking! Does this mean that if I had a great-uncle that signed Dawes, I can apply to be a part of the Western Cherokee nation? Robert Due, the Indian Trader -or- the son of Robert Due and some other Cherokee woman. I have a lot of information about our trees if you'd like to contact me at zevranroman@yahoo.com. Does anyone have any information of direct descendants of Moytoy I or II that are on the Dawes Final Rolls? I am hoping to find any records of John Ward (my great grandfather) and his wife Emma. Young Tassell married and had children with Mary Johnson (children John and Margaret Watts documented, others possible); Wurteagua Carpenter (Mink, John, Soup and Fish Tail, possible others); Oousta White Owl Hanging Maw (Thomas Rattling Gourd Watts, Two Wood, PeachEater, Elizabeth, Jacob Oostooli Z Watts, Councilor John J); and Tsiyugi (Rachel, John and Mary Polly) - each of these have been documented. John Jolly had a white father, possibly Robert Due, and a Cherokee mother but nothing else is known of his parents. brother of Talonteskee, born about 1770. Joseph Vann, son of James Vann, inherited the vast wealth of James Vann even though it went against the Cherokee tradition of a Clan distributing it among all members. LMAO He is buried in the Old Nation, as is his wife, James' mother, who was born a Vann. Born in Cherokee Nation East, Willstown, Jackson, AL on 1752 to Grey Eagle Willeeneewa and Kayhun Keyhum Techea. She married Thomas Lawson Kendrick on Oct 17, 1850 in Cherokee, North Carolina. My 5th great grandmother was Robin Joyce Moytoy " Raven" daugther of Chief Standing Turkey Moytoy Most beloved of the Cherokees Boen in 1704. in TN. Yes, I'm one of "those" Vanns (documented, BTW). This is how rich the Vanns were back then. He planned to lead a campaign into the Cumberland region of Appalachia. ELIZABETH WATTS - people search, genealogy, find deceased relatives and locate ancestors: Name SSN Date of birth Date of death Lived State Zip Code (Last Residence) Zip Code (Lump Tax payment) ELIZABETH WATTS: 218-30-5302: June 6, 1892: July 1, 1963: 71 years : ELIZABETH WATTS: 353-22-6693: November 25, 1893: June 1, 1965: I had wondered as an Engish man how I could have inherited Native American DNA. My last post. LDS records gives an Elizabeth Lewis as a wife of a John Benge. My Grand daughter who is 7, Is very interested an wanted me to look up a few. I'm a descendant through Moytoy, Doublehead, Colbert, Tharp, etc. As always, I love becoming aquainted with new family members, no matter how distant the kinship. I think his number was 2038. My email is billallison60@gmail.com and I am very interested in any information concerning this. The same Joseph Vann who had to spend the rest of his life in the colonies because he knew he would die for his treachery. View Description. And they were born before registration so difficult. I am trying to find my possible connection to the Eastern Cherokee Nation. Yes it would. My name is June Hicks-Kilpatrick and my paternal grandmother, Mertie Parris' 5th great-grandfather was George Parris, who was the son of Richard Pearis and Pratchey. ok as an outsider of all your bickering let me ask .. What is Fact?? PLEASE email me with any information regarding common names, and how you enrolled, who you used so I can see if any of it matches up.KARYNBISHOF10@GMAIL.COMchief murmuring ripplechief morning rippleshawandochief dancing streamchief running stream/ powhatan (the chief powhatan)scent flowermorning scent flower- paupauwiskenonomatatiske winuskewahunsonocockvirginia metis powhatanthomas munsawghewinanuske nonomaopechancanoughnamontackpride chalakahatha cornstalktaminad munsawghelocha quatsy nancy of tellicothomas pasmere corn planter carpenteramatoya moytoy (amadoya) (ama edohi) trader tom carpenterkana-gatoga moytoy- old hop/ stalking turkeysu-gi sookie moytoyanigatagewi moytoyamadoyamadoni moytoysu-gi sallie/sally grannie/granny grasshopperanuwagi peggy moytoycornelius doughertyjames doughertyelizabeth doughertynathan lawsonsampson david lawsongeorge w lawsonmary mahala j lawsoneverette s baldwin (my grandfather)beverly baldwin-bishof (my mom)karyn bishof (me). Here's my direct-lineage proving ancestry.Direct Famial Lineage: Cleopatra Powhatan1590-1641Mother of -> Pride Shawnee1615-1679Mother of -> Amatoya Moytoy1640-1730Father of -> Old Hop Moytoy1690-1761Father of -> Sookie Granny Grasshopper1730-1820Mother of -> Rachel Tookah McDaniel1763-1792Mother of -> Rachel Agnes Tookah Chambers1781-1846Mother of -> William Simon Roland "Billy" Norris1816-1892Father of -> John Roland Norris1853-1903Father of -> James "Jim" Roland Norris1883-1930Father of -> Lucy Jane Norris1908-1986Mother of -> John Earl "Johnny" Jones1945-1978Father of -> Timothy Lavon Mitchell - Jones(Given Name at Birth. Your help would be treasured.Carol, I am also a descendent of Moytoy. But Cornblossom is one of those internet myths. Oh what a tangled web we weave when we first deceive! James Vann was shot and killed in 1809 by his former friend Saunders for another reason. Kharma, maybe. News personality. Sharon. Remember to wear your helmet, drink plenty of fluids, and enjoy yourself. It is also sufficient information to become a tribe member of the Western Cherokees. It couldn't have been the Vanns could it? This was the third phase of the "Cherokee removal" to lands in the West. My great great grandmother was Keziah Jane Hicks who was full blood Cherokee (born in Tennesee on 18 January 1832) married William M. Maxfield (born in Tennesee on 18 April 1821) 11 November 1847 in Rusk County, Texas. I am very interested in getting the dawes final rolls number..I have been searching for this informationI am also trying to figure out the name of the unknown cheorkee son of moytoyII father of Ani Waya..email is missourigirl.lc@gmail.com, I am wanting help trying to find Jenni ani WiYa father, he is known as the unknown cherokee his father is Moytoy II..Does anyone have the dawes#..I am thinked to the Westbrook and Fogles? 1,645 followers. He died in 1867 and was buried at White Oak, Arkansas. I'm desperately trying to determine if Irene Jane Adkins was blood line to Mary Bluesky or to Parker's 2nd wife, Mary "Polly" Fry. My grandfather founded the Cherokee Elders Council in 1996. Many of my relatives have their Cherokee Nation cards, but I still do not. There is a widespread belief that he was the son of the John Benge who lived with the Cherokee and his white wife. I am a descendant of Miss Amatoya Taminad-Trader Kanagaota Motoy and Chief Amahetia 'll Moytoy of Tellico. She then 'married' John Amory, a White trader, and when he died, and she left for England with the Cherokee contingent, she left their son with his English wife, who raised him. Old Hop's father was Chief Moytoy. 4. Elizabeth Watts. Also - just to be clear - there are only 3 true Cherokee tribes. But I don't know if that means I am a member of a particular Cherokee tribe?? William F. Dorton [[Dorton-166]]: No source is listed for this claim. Cornblossom's descendants, through Katie Troxell, led to my East Tennesseean ancestors--Blevins and Buttram. So, if anyone can shed any light on my dilemma I would be appreciative. However, after the settlers had walked out, Doublehead's group and his Muscogee allies attacked and killed them. Chief Stout Man "Young Peter" Cornstalk. I am 71 years old and have DOCUMENTED PROOF of my Cherokee ancestry that goes back to the 1700s. None of them. But I unfortunately have not been able to trase them on the rolls because she married a while man and movies to Tennessee. My family has known for some time and have searched to find our ancestors. May I suggest research and study the factual truth instead of false, fictional and fraudulent fantasies and fairytales from fairyland and wonderland. She studied archaeology at Sheffield University and graduated with first class honours. His pension application (images on Fold3 at https://www.fold3.com/image/11017790) says that he was born in Virginia, moved to North Carolina with his mother, and in May, 1785 at the age of 16 or 17 was forced to serve in the War by a step-father named Fielder. Guatemala specifically. How they were excluded from the Nation because they were black? He is suppose to be called "The End Of The Trail". What is the roll numbers. I am of Moytoy decent on my mother's father's side. Her mother and John Vann are my 5x-grands. Along the way, the group was attacked by a militant group of frontiersmen during a stop at the Overhill town of Coyatee. A paper trail of historical events at the time also disproves this relationship. thanks, KAYLIN,MARY MCDANIEL AND CATHERINE MCDANIEL WERE SISTERSMY LINEAGE GOES DOWN FROM MOYTOY TO OLD HOP TO SUGI/ GRANNIE HOPPER, TO MARY MCDANIEL, TO ELIZ. Family connections all wrong, dates way off, and no proofs, which is worse than no website.http://www.dagulaku.com/Wappa' e-shiquechi' nika. Were the Carpenters traders from England or not? Elizabeth Watts Gore Daughter of Roberta Parker Watts and John B. Watts Jr., Elizabeth grew up in Little Rock, cultivating lasting friendships in her passage through local institutions. John Jolly (Due): John Jolly was a Cherokee chief, (half?) Elizabeth Judd was the daugther of Rowland Judd and Robin Moytoy/Cherokee. But you wouldn't know nothing about that, would you. So DNA isn't going to tell you if you're Indian or not. Elizabeth Watts, also known as "Wurte" Watts, was the supposed mixed-blood daughter of John Watts, a British government interpreter [known as "Old Forked Tongue Watts"], who died in 1770. Try Elizabeth "Quatsey" Betsy McDaniel whom was married to James Thomas Essary. . I know that I am named after my great grandmother whos maiden name was Quatsie Catherine Copeland..and her father or my great great grandfather, was James Riley Copeland and I know he was a great leader in Oklahoma and was sought after for legal advice. I have met many cousins on the King Connect NA on Facebook with Cherokee and Powhatan ancestors. Elizabeth Watts's income source is mostly from being a successful . With DNA we could know what tribe or many different tribes, as in my case, but I cannot enroll because grandmothers married white men who wanted their wives to be white so their children would be white so they would not be persecuted, killed, rounded up and moved, tagged like cattle. John Benge [[Benge-104]]: John Benge was a white trader who lived in the Cherokee Nation most of his adult life. TM,Have you learned anything new re: Black Fox, Attakullakulla, Moytoy, and Thomas Pasmere Carpenter? Rebecca Goode Rebecca E Hensley Rebecca Watts Rebecca Elizabeth Watts Rebecca E Watts Becky Goode Rebecca Hensley Becky E Goode Relatives: Mother, father, . I am related to may of you! "Chickamauga Cherokee Wars (1776-1794) - part 7 of 9", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Watts_(Cherokee_chief)&oldid=1130442447, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. My name is William Ray Allison, Jr. My dad's mother, Cora Waters, was enrolled in the Dawes Roll as was her mother, Maudie Condreay Waters, her mother, Barbara Allie Palone Condreay, and her mother, Mary Parris Palone. I found on one person's tree in Ancestry.com that Phaerba Ammons was daughter of Phoebe Eseentrino which was daughter of Rebecca C Indian, daughter of Great Eagle can annyone confirm this or say it is not true can't find any information. Willstown, Jackson, AL on 1752 to Grey Eagle Willeeneewa and Kayhun Keyhum Techea Benge lived. 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